Below I quote from a discussion thread for the CSU Bundestag Dorothee Baer on their Wall in the online network "Facebook" . Who are the comments posted there by supporters mainly Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg read through, doubt has been partly due to the critical self-reflection of many a writer. Obviously plays a lot into it but also the disappointment of the supporters of that now must witness almost helplessly as the hyped idol of the sincerity and honesty is the 'oh so evil media suddenly torn from the socket. But we must not neglect the double standard that this will obviously apply. To explain its might to be reading this thread just make consistently the question whether the authors of the comments listed below have argued so if at the point of Mr. zu Guttenberg, for example, a high Mandats-/Funktionsträger of SPD, the Left Party, or another would be affected. In this sense, we hope the (critical) reading ...
Dorothee Baer Be honest: A YouTube Special to KT?? That really is over exaggerated!
He said, he clarified the charges with the university and it improves the error!
That must also be enough. This chase me sick!
Friday at 19:25 via iPhone •
NAME've also written mal ne diss (same); that alone must properly zugehn here - you do not do that, too.
Friday at 19:56
NAME @ NAME : fall when German troops in Afghanistan, she and I with our sent election voting in the Hindu Kush (they do not choose the left, right?), then to interest us and to shake. We s. .. afghanistan ind responsible for the men and women. and also those media representatives who have now made a completely wrong focus: rtl degraded Afghanistan rand reporting which zdf well.
times by the way: the whole discussion is the sense of justice of the majority over. who has not himself an academic diploma, the debate extremely difficult nachvollziehen.Mehr's
Friday at 19:57
NAME @ NAME Guttenberg's current crisis PR was surely quite für'n ass I say sometimes in German. Who came up with this stupid idea is immediately fired! Embarrassing embarrassing ...
Friday at 19:59
NAME @ NAME : PhD or not - are surely dead soldiers ago from assessment clearly higher than a discussion of footnotes. The same applies to the value of the unrest in the Arab countries. Sorry-but ... I just returned from public service I expect as ordinary journalism and just about do it.
... and for murder / manslaughter, or crimes against humanity, there are both in The Hague in the school prison, right? ! TRANSFER VALUES and VALUES CLASSIFY Show More
Friday at 20:00
NAME Let's be honest: How to get to the subject of a "special" to go? Have every two minutes, the foregoing is repeated again, I know of the RTL group, but forgot their audience probably also like what it actually went two minutes ago ...
Friday at 20:00
NAME .... One forgot I still, if you were to ask the opposition, the same would also have to take the hat makers who have assessed the DrArbeit of KT and have awarded the title of Dr KT.
Friday at 20:01
NAME Trittin's appearance in the ZDF was unnecessary and its representation with "honor".
Friday at 20:01
NAME @ NAME : It's not about one or the other to evaluate higher. Since the thesis was created before the activity as a defense, both areas should be considered separately and evaluated. A special broadcast on ZDF, KTG is because for months, according to surveys of the absolute top star of the federal government.
Friday at 20:06
NAME @ NAME : not only Mr. Trittin has now unnecessary given of themselves. Freedom and general press freedom in such discussions should just keep their Countenance. This is right now clearly missed. The more encouraging that 80% of respondents are still behind in ntv KT!
Friday at 20:12
NAME @ NAME : I do think that a human life definitely has more value. But as I see it does not hurt at all our defense.
@ Doro: Greetings, KT: Hold the course, the majority is behind you!
Friday at 20:18
NAME KT should have just drunk endangering the road, but today it is not punished, but won ...
Friday at 20:18
NAME chase is the right word!
Even FOCUS refused my readers comment.
So I'm on my FB - next page .......
Friday at 20:19
NAME there will still only scratch one of his coat, and disgusts me at the
Friday at 20:23
NAME what could one expect from this left-wing press for different
Friday at 20:28
NAME This mission is more than provocative. If you are not in this at the Public Media. Right? Can you do anything about it there are schl. Taxpayers' money. Greetings from the CSU Bad Abbach
Friday at 20:44
NAME C'est la vie! If you look at the policy and thus decide for the public, should have a clean slate "for you! But you women bear "rush" a little against the other parties. Bad is it jedoc that the media "hire and fire" rule so skillfully, because basically KT a pleasant personality.
Friday at 20:47
NAME Why should a Secretary of State is not something to rush against other parties. Then they would be on the wrong item
Friday at 20:51
NAME The man was at the front and has risked his life yesterday. Where were the letters warrior? This is no political opposition more, this is the worst after Geheimdienstaetigkeit Stasimanier. Soon the next scoop: "Minister of toilet paper used to Guttenberg!" The man works for Germany. Do not forget our soldiers in action. They did not deserve these priorities.
Friday at 21:04
NAME The evil "opposition", which are FAZ, SZ, Focus, Stern, ARD Berlin Studios, ZDF, etc. Today, and now even in parts of the pictures ... Would a Joschka Fischer was concerned, the CSU would have been of course behind him protectively. Equal rights for all!
Friday at 21:10
NAME Does it with "hubris" overestimates his abilities, so pride and arrogance aimed at social distance. In attitude and manners they are restrained by decency and civility. The pride favorable causes sin ... d vanity and narcissism.
perceived arrogance on the other hand is secretly Empty offset and is perceived as arrogance. Clumsy conceit makes his support for the toffs.
from http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hochmut
comes before a fall
ps It would be interesting how much more their own people out of the chair's mitsägenMehr
Friday at 21:14
NAME who cheats on the exam, but the flies out, too! Errors must be man and the consequences are so clear!
Friday at 21:37
NAME http://www.facebook.com/quistoz/posts/143461825718168?ref=notif¬if_t=share_reply # / ProGuttenberg
Friday at 21:41
NAME @ NAME : This is about a pioneering, reliable, and in spite of the discussion here neglect trust politicians who have forgotten a few footnotes. The controlling Examination Board has therefore also failed to control your work. This is not a Spickzettelbetrüger at the high school caught is also not to donate money affair or tax evasion, which has survived other politicians.
Friday at 22:57
NAME Achje. Would come out that Gysi or Lötzsch were so creative in their theses, but then what was going on.
real Yesterday at 00:24
NAME a joke! All who try to make bad long Guttenberg, are of course totally outraged! And the media love to do nothing better than the whole exaggerate in order to make quota! That gets on my nerves just yet!
Yesterday at 03:28
NAME And he has nice rumgeführt the media by the nose ... Class! Does Germany added hang nothing more important than a popular and hard-working man? Everyone should schähmen the blows that horn into it. KT remains for me one of the most truthful men in the German political scene ... keep it up KT!
Yesterday at 07:50
NAME All those who do not know what really lies behind a thesis for a performance - KT received his summa cum laude for the unmarked quotes from the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, for example, but for the overall academic performance - should hold back.
One should also consider: Finally, Germany has a defense minister who is respected abroad and respected. Many seem to be willing to dismantle it. This improves not just our state and our weight especially in the ongoing military actions.
Perhaps we should postpone envy, resentment and political Oppositionshäme from the point to Germany's international standing with such Prejudgements nichtt more harm! Show More
Yesterday at 08:51
NAME Dorothy, I am completely in your opinion! The level of public service television, which yes we all pay, sinks deeper and deeper. ZDF seem to have assumed and unweighted error of the PhD thesis to be more important than three soldiers killed in Afghanistan, which were only mentioned in short messages. Too bad!
Yesterday at 09:41
NAME In all that the man may have made (!) Correctly has, in the choice of his ghost-writer for the dissertation he has used the toilet. The Lords of Guttenplag have set a tight schedule, so the documentation of ... Plagiarism sites is possible by tomorrow evening complete. Currently the count to only 175 pages, appear to contain plagiarism. It really is time for Germany to return back to important issues. The PhD has been provided to the man and how the inspection results, the university will follow him in this assessment. Now he will still make the post. Then he can make a decent return policy, without having to him from the left and right, and from within the company's pee on my legs you.more
Yesterday at 10:06
NAME @ NAME : no, it's simply about the exemplary role and the question of validation of scientific work!
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NAME chase ... Bear ma'am, take time with the facts. The number of pages to show that Mr. Guttenberg has copied literally, to every hour. Today at 9 clock there were loud Tagesschau 76 pages, now is ... t of 111 pages of the question. Spiegel Online writes that Mr. Guttenberg has even taken over the federal service to make it known without it. In other words, at taxpayer expense he has pimped his thesis clearly. Clear that the Union is afraid to lose your hope. But the unmasking have nothing to do with a chase that is lived Demokratie.Mehr's
Yesterday at 11:02
NAME If footnotes are important in a dissertation, when three dead German soldiers in Afghanistan, then something is wrong in our Lam pretty!
Yesterday at 11:10
NAME KT is the man. This fuss about his doctorate does not interest me. Wieveile doctors there that would not be suitable for his post.
Yesterday at 11:42
NAME He is our top soldier and a model for the troops. So he should provide for complaints, and fight like a man
Yesterday at 12:03
NAME Who are times even like to make a first impression look here: http://de.guttenplag.wikia.com/wiki/Plagiate
Even if I disconnect from the finds 50% of which are set up properly but then or in the wiki eingeschmugelt were ...
Yesterday at 12:05
NAME You should also ask if you are, what Prof. Haeberle has ever received the Bavarian Order of Merit? With so many errors, he seems to have not read the dissertation so.
Yesterday at 12:09 pm
NAME @ NAME . There are no mistakes. There are normal websites / acquisitions. If now there are some errors had been copied, it would still be stupid.
23 hours
NAME http://de.guttenplag.wikia.com/wiki/Seite_045, Constitution 3s. These are the students who are too lazy to read their work also at himself. I'm stunned.
23 hours
NAME @ NAME : It's not about footnotes. The point is that a minister who keeps very high value on the intellectual property of other assaults. Meanwhile, the number of pages on which there is to be copied bodies grown to 247th
21 hours
NAME There is no attack, if someone points out that in a dissertation may be the principles of scientific work have not been met. Even a high-ranking politicians must stick to it.
Also, I'm on the ... Examination by the University of Bayreuth gespannt.Mehr's
21 hours
NAME envy, resentment and over it, it is enough! This hunt is a unique KT smear campaign. Do not we have other problems and challenges to be overcome?
sued in 20 hours • 3 people will ...
NAME This Hetz hunting but now times will have a border which is that?
19 hours
NAME I think also that it is just envy. It's a real chase, as in the Middle Ages. I think the thesis has nothing to do with his
minister. If he were not successful CSU ministers would
no one look in his Doktorarbe ... i and in the past there
rumspionieren.Mehr's
19 hours
NAME I think many of the above commentators are to attend the next semester even a seminar on science and ethics.
18 hours
NAME 's obvious when someone is MechTig, then always found something with which one can make one finished. KT just in case the title Dr. is.
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